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Cool!

I just wanted to further clarify, those who take rebirth in Sukhavati are without gender, so it is saying that all beings are equal and non-dual in physical form, not just excluding the female forms. The same applies when it is said that there are no women in Medicine Buddha's pure land.

Good point, Jae-Min, that's exactly right. Also appearing there spontaneously, not born through a human body.

I wouldn't mind hanging out in Amitabha's realm for a while.

;-)

Well, Oliver, as Jimi Hendrix Rinpoche once famously sang:

"And if I don't meet you no more in this world
Then I'll meet you in the next one
And don't be late, don't be late."

Pardon me for harrumph-ing at the harrumph, but the vow just says if they don't want to be reborn as women and then they are anyway, he's not finished yet. There's no implied judgment of the status of women or the desirability of being a woman or any of that nonsense.

In a lot of the vows he's saying if there's anything the people want that they don't have, he's not finished yet. Same thing about the women who don't want to be women again.

And thanks to Jae-Min for her astute point.

The view of women as inferior vessels is pervasive throughout Buddhism. Looking at it in the context of history, it becomes understandable, but remains painful. It does impact the self-esteem and confidence of Tibetan nuns, who live with the inequities much more than we in the West.

And while Jetsunma and our other lamas teach that women can certainly attain Enlightenment, we still follow Buddhist traditions wherein monks are given preferential treatment over nuns-- seated in front, served food first, etc.... For both men and women, it can be used as fuel for practice, to cut the ego. In the end it is all about how one responds internally to the external.

I raised the "harumph" not for myself (I've already made my peace with it--well, mostly!), but for others who might not have any idea what to make of it.

To Leamur: I'm a guy! But those lyrics Konchog mentioned remind me of something that (the previous) Lhatse Tulku said to my lama "If you keep your samaya, do your daily sadhana and perform tsog on the 10th and 25th, then after death, we will, arms linked together, go to Vajrayogini's pure land".

To Jae-Min: oops. ;)

Yes, I like Hendrix Rinpoche too. Especially the teaching: "there must be some kinda way outta here"

Is there a purple haze in Amitabha's land?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD7s4i_X-p0&feature=related

I have a question.

Aren't we confusing here an alleged historical person qualifying as a bodhisattva, who uttered these vows, and Amitabha Buddha, an aspect of Awakening (some would say adibuddha)?

Was ever such a bodhisattva? (I am a Westerner, so historical accounts are fine with me.)

At least, I have no doubt of being confused:-)

Also, about the differences between Sukhavati and the Christian paradise: at a psychological level, I think they are the same for millions of people (faith and subsequent long-lasting bliss without falling into the suffering never again).

Bodhicitta is a most difficult and profound quality to develop...

[Sorry for double posting.]

About the pervading misogyny in Buddhism, I found the book of Prof. Bernard Faure, __The Power of Denial__, quite interesting. (The focus is on China and Japan.) The other one on sexuality and Buddhism as well, entitled __The Red Thread__.

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